[yocto] Fwd: [DNF YOCTO clarifications] smart was replaced with dnf in Yocto 2.3

[Zoran Stojsavljevic]

> No. Yocto is not an operating system, it's a toolset that can be used to
build many wildly different operating systems. An rpm repo would
> only be compatible with one of those OSes.

YOCTO is a custom made distro for eLinuxes, on this I agree with you. At
least, you should keep DNF (instead smartpm) as package representative for
dealing with .rpms, in all future YOCTO releases. This should be (as
considering embedded use cases) enough.

And, yes, I see your point, if anybody has so big project that he would
like to make master servers and maintain his own source code packages
(.src.rpm), and plain .rpm (as Fedora does, I just run there on Fedora 26
command: dnf list all | wc -l and got package # around 60K), he should do
this on his own. ;-)

Do you agree to continue keeping DNF package (in .../meta/recipe_devtools/)
for handling of .rpm type of packages in the future releases of YOCTO (it
is, after all, much better and more mature tool that smartpm)?

Thank you,
Zoran

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Jussi Kukkonen <jussi.kukkonen at intel.com>
wrote:

> On 24 August 2017 at 10:33, Zoran Stojsavljevic <
> zoran.stojsavljevic at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Jussi,
> >
> > I would like to thank you very much for the useful reply. It was a bit
> different with me, but most boiled down as you said/explained (the
> difference are in client/server IP addresses, but everything else is almost
> the same - I guess, I do not have complete set of .rpms on my server side).
> >
> > I issued the following comand on client (qemux86-64): dnf list all | wc
> -l, and got the following response:
> > Repository 'oe-packages' is missing name in configuration, using id.
> > Last metadata expiration check: 0:42:56 ago on Thu Aug 24 06:13:31 2017
> UTC
> > 7909
> >
> > Regarding the command's answer, I have two questions to ask: one easy,
> and one tough. ;-)
> >
> > Easy one. What is the reason for this message: Repository 'oe-packages'
> is missing name in configuration, using id???
>
> I'm not a yum/dnf expert at all but the error seems to be saying that
> oe-packages.repo is missing a line like "name =  OpenEmbedded packages".
>
> > Tough one: 7909 packages overall on server. Could you (YOCTO
> maintainers), please, keep DNF (for .rpm packages) onwards indefinitely in
> YOCTO, and make/create master YOCTO download servers, the same what Fedora
> distro does for almost two decades (with YUM, prior DNF)?
> >
> > The positive answer on the second question will make (for many thousand
> people using .rpms in YOCTO) life much easier, won't it?!
>
> No. Yocto is not an operating system, it's a toolset that can be used to
> build many wildly different operating systems. An rpm repo would only be
> compatible with one of those OSes.
>
> If a Yocto user builds and maintains a specific OS with Yocto, it might
> make sense for them to maintain rpm repos for that OS. It does not make
> sense for Yocto project.
>
>  - Jussi
>
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