[yocto] 答复: Web HOB planning discussion

[Barros Pena, Belen]

Thanks, Xiaotong.

I don't think features 1 and 3 are critical, but I think we will need to
find a technical solution for point 2.

Cheers

Belen

On 21/06/2012 06:19, "Lv, XiaotongX" <xiaotongx.lv at intel.com> wrote:

>About Jim’s video requirement.  and many users to many bitbake servers
>mapping. maybe there are some problems maybe to solve.
>
>Some my questions:
>1. running builds remaining time. difficult to estimate.
>  when a user check all the builds status, whether they are done or not.
>  the remaining time, it is difficult to estimate. cause in bitbake
>server. I donot accurately
>  to know current build when it starts, how long it will finish for this
>build.
>  so to give an accurate remaining time for user. it is difficult.
>2. Add users own layers. how to implement?
>  one user wanna to add own layers. so he uploads own layer by browser to
>put in web server firstly.
>  then we need let web server do one thing. to copy the layer to bitbake
>server.
>  so my problem. 
>  1).if user upload a unavailable compression layer folder. how to check
>the folder whether it is
>    a real layer or not. If it is hack shells or hack software. How to
>deal with it?
>  2).if user next operation is time out during building, for example,
>after building package,
>    User donot select package to build image for long time, so system
>will trigger a time out event to stop and cancel this build .
>    next time, we need to assign a new bitbake for this user.
>    in fact. user only wanna to continue his operation based on last time
>build. Donot need a new bitbake sever to repeat build.
>    And now all of user build, we only use one build directory. So it is
>difficult to remain last different users build status.
>  
>3.after build completed in browser. it is difficult to test and deploy
>image directly. how to solve these problems?
>we only can download and upload files in browser. We cannot write or read
>a local machine files and do some operation in browser.
>So to test and deploy images by browser. It is difficult. So maybe we
>need to develop a single client to solve this problem.
>But we know. If develop a client. Whether we satisfy different OS. For
>example, window xp, window 7, linux different version, mac os.
>
>
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>发件人: yocto-bounces at yoctoproject.org [yocto-bounces at yoctoproject.org] 代表
>Barros Pena, Belen [belen.barros.pena at intel.com]
>发送时间: 2012年6月14日 16:37
>到: Osier-mixon, Jeffrey; Stewart, David C
>Cc: Jim Kosem; yocto at yoctoproject.org; Konstantinos Papagiannopoulos
>主题: Re: [yocto] Web HOB planning discussion
>
>Hi all,
>
>Thanks for the feedback: loads of interesting stuff there. We'll keep it
>all in mind when working on the next iteration.
>
>If you think of anything else, please post it here.
>
>Cheers
>
>Belen
>
>From: <Osier-mixon>, Jeffrey
><jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com<mailto:jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com>>
>Date: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:00
>To: "Stewart, David C"
><david.c.stewart at intel.com<mailto:david.c.stewart at intel.com>>
>Cc: Konstantinos Papagiannopoulos
><hello at konputer.net<mailto:hello at konputer.net>>,
>"yocto at yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto at yoctoproject.org>"
><yocto at yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto at yoctoproject.org>>, Jim Kosem
><jim at halfman.com<mailto:jim at halfman.com>>
>Subject: Re: [yocto] Web HOB planning discussion
>
>I agree, it is looking really interesting. Some comments below.
>
>On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Stewart, David C
><david.c.stewart at intel.com<mailto:david.c.stewart at intel.com>> wrote:
>* This could be a great way for an organization to implement a workflow
>process using YP, rather than try to invent one themselves. We have
>gotten the feedback that some larger organizations want something like
>this, so I'm pleased with that direction.
>
>Agreed - I have fielded a few questions about this as well
>
>* With the above in mind, a key meta-usage is installing and configuring
>the server. For example, I could imagine an organization wanting to
>easily customize the home page with their own news and design
>information, etc.
>
>* I could also see the opportunity for an OSV or service provider to
>brand the interface with their own goodness and extending it with their
>own features so this might be another meta-usage.
>
>* And while I'm on a roll... whenever we talk about how the administrator
>installs this, we need consider how they update from a previous version,
>particularly if they have customized the home screen or other bits.
>
>If branding & customization happen in CSS, the whole customization part
>should be portable from one version to another (as long as no one breaks
>anything structural). If we want to enable customization of
>functionality, though - e.g. pre-filter package selection, restrict
>certain features... - I could see that being tricky to implement in a
>portable way.
>
>* Project creation and member add/remove should perhaps be an
>administrator role and password protected?
>
>I vote yes on user management, but why password-protect project creation?
>
>Other thoughts:
>
>My feeling is that both Hob and WebHob will be most useful as tools to
>get people started. At some point, anyone who is doing more esoteric work
>than the Hob allows will need to learn how to get their hands dirty with
>recipes, config files, etc. For that reason, I really like the workflow
>focus, as that translates directly to the expected workflow of the whole
>build system. I suggest a future step might be guided configuration,
>guided recipe (and layer?) creation, and other progressive types of
>features that also show the workflow in action the way the current Hob
>does.
>
>And I totally agree that the usability work you guys have done is making
>a huge difference in design. I like it! Want more!
>--
>Jeff Osier-Mixon http://jefro.net/blog
>Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel
>http://yoctoproject.org<http://yoctoproject.org/>
>
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