[yocto-ab] YP Advisory Board: voting issues for next meeting

[akuster]

On 06/19/2017 12:48 PM, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Otavio Salvador 
> <otavio.salvador at ossystems.com.br 
> <mailto:otavio.salvador at ossystems.com.br>> wrote:
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>     On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Osier-mixon, Jeffrey
>     <jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com
>     <mailto:jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com>> wrote:
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>     > The second vote reduction proposal has to do with meetings. For the past few
>     > years, it has been difficult to get a quorum at Advisory Board
>     meetings, so
>     > we have not been voting at the meetings themselves. This is
>     problematic for
>     > a number of reasons. It was suggested at the last meeting that
>     we change our
>     > voting system to no longer require a quorum at meetings – those
>     members
>     > present can vote and pass issues without resorting to the
>     mailing list. I
>     > would further propose that for this purpose, all votes taken at
>     meetings
>     > without a quorum must be unanimous.
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>     > For most of the issues voted on by the Advisory Board, I don’t
>     see a problem
>     > with this at all, and it would encourage members to show up at
>     meetings. As
>     > always, all meetings are announced at least two weeks ahead of time.
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>     I am against it; we can instead allow votes on mailing list and not
>     during the meetings.
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> I respect your position, especially as I see you make an effort to 
> vote every time one is called for. However, we already allow votes by 
> email. We have not voted conclusively in any other way for at least 2 
> years.
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> I have found that it can take repeated requests to get a response from 
> most of the organizations on the members list, and some members simply 
> never respond. It is getting to be extremely difficult to get a quorum 
> *in any way*. I am open to other ideas on voting, including enabling 
> individual members to vote by email if they show themselves to be 
> responsive, but I have to be able to get a vote on an issue within 2 
> weeks, otherwise this governing body is standing in the way of 
> progress for its own project.

I think the real vote should happen when the AB gathers in person or via 
a conf call and if there is a tie, the vote is sent out to the list for 
resolution. It is amazing how slow our process is considering the small 
number of members.  Maybe some sort of Proxy process or default can be 
defined for those who can't attend?

- armin
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