[yocto-ab] YP Advisory Board: voting issues for next meeting

[Erway, Tracey M]

Would we drop the requirement for voting if we pass the deadline?  I think the intent was to make the deadline the actual meeting where a voting item was presented.  We wouldn't drop the requirement for voting, just drop the requirement for a quorum at the meeting so those interested could vote and we could move on. 

/t

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-ab-bounces at yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-ab-bounces at yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Otavio Salvador
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:02 PM
To: Jeff Osier-Mixon <jefro at jefro.net>
Cc: yocto-ab at yoctoproject.org
Subject: Re: [yocto-ab] YP Advisory Board: voting issues for next meeting

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Jeff Osier-Mixon <jefro at jefro.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Otavio Salvador 
> <otavio.salvador at ossystems.com.br> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Osier-mixon, Jeffrey 
>> <jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> > The second vote reduction proposal has to do with meetings. For the 
>> > past few years, it has been difficult to get a quorum at Advisory 
>> > Board meetings, so we have not been voting at the meetings 
>> > themselves. This is problematic for a number of reasons. It was 
>> > suggested at the last meeting that we change our voting system to 
>> > no longer require a quorum at meetings – those members present can 
>> > vote and pass issues without resorting to the mailing list.
>> > I
>> > would further propose that for this purpose, all votes taken at 
>> > meetings without a quorum must be unanimous.
>> >
>> > For most of the issues voted on by the Advisory Board, I don’t see 
>> > a problem with this at all, and it would encourage members to show 
>> > up at meetings.
>> > As
>> > always, all meetings are announced at least two weeks ahead of time.
>>
>> I am against it; we can instead allow votes on mailing list and not 
>> during the meetings.
>
>
> I respect your position, especially as I see you make an effort to 
> vote every time one is called for. However, we already allow votes by 
> email. We have not voted conclusively in any other way for at least 2 years.
>
> I have found that it can take repeated requests to get a response from 
> most of the organizations on the members list, and some members simply 
> never respond. It is getting to be extremely difficult to get a quorum 
> *in any way*. I am open to other ideas on voting, including enabling 
> individual members to vote by email if they show themselves to be 
> responsive, but I have to be able to get a vote on an issue within 2 
> weeks, otherwise this governing body is standing in the way of progress for its own project.

So add a deadline for votes; but dropping the requirement for voting is wrong.

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