[yocto-ab] Minutes: YP Advisory Board

Thu Nov 8 11:17:49 PST 2012

For the record, this meeting was held on October 22, 2012

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Osier-mixon, Jeffrey
<jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com> wrote:
> [Sorry for the delay on these - Monday's minutes coming up shortly as well]
>
> Attendees:
> Sanil Kumar, Huawei
> Jason Kridner, TI
> Lieu Ta, Wind River
> Dave Stewart, Intel
> Steve Sakoman, Sakoman Inc.
> Sean Hudson, Mentor Graphics
> Tracey Erway, Intel
> Philip Balister, OpenEmbedded
> Joe Kidder, Enea
> Richard Purdie, Linux Foundation
>
> notes: Jeff Osier-Mixon
>
> _____________________________
> WebHob design work
>
> found some money to spend on design for web gui interface to bitbake
> contracted with tobias & tobias
> public webhob, concerns about capacity
> [slides]
> danger of overpromise?
> jk: timesys webfactory took 4hrs, local reuse objects faster
>   so good to get started but not good for production
> sh: ease of use is significant factor
>   make usable, but not so usable that it becomes primary dev location
>   transition should be easy
> ds:
> 3 webhob versions considered:
>   public
>   shared in constrained group
>   local
> sh: ease transition internally to team deployment, & to command line
> jk: team building tools primary usage mechanism
>   people move from web playground to deeper interfaces is limited functionality
>   hope to see a robust gui, avoid limiting people
> sk: example for ramp & freeway - balance, start from goals
>   focus on usability, performance, features
>   proper long term direction for yocto in those areas
>   strengthen customization
> ds: thinking about first cycle through, emphasizing one area
> sh: now with bitbake & project, have functional freeway
>   dont have nice gui web frontend yet, but have fwy well established
>   challenge is getting people involved
> joe: getting people in more important than
> ds: concerned leading up ramp and then dropping in hole, transition to fwy
>   scaling up for workflow
>   "anyone who would think successful without command line tools won't
> be successful"
> pb: assuming build images with boards - just supported boards by YP?
> basis of binaries
>   worried about getting into a support issue
> ds: worried about uploading layers, random python scripts - possible
> security issue?
> rp: definite issue, not just taking packages and turning into images
> ds: not independent UI, possibly connected to autobuilder
>   personal webhob is frontend to bitbake
> send comments to richard
> j: eclipse?
> ds: already supported, as system developer (syntax directed editor of
> recipe files), build fires up hob
>   also alternative fire up build appliance or webhob, use macos or
> windows as eclipse
> purpose - proxy issues, firewalls, major issue in many companies
> sh: timeline for determinations?
> ds: tobias 6 week effort done next week, will comeu pwit proposed
> product def & roadmap
>   contemplating extension allow them to play with specific design concepts
>   and get more feedback
>   designer should come to barcelona
> *** meeting ***
>   design task force, bof
>
> _____________________________
> New website
>
> design phase done
> contracted with superstar media for buildout, michael halstead AND
> melissa helping as are belen & scottrif
> have been some delays due to conferences and illness
> delayed by about a week at this point, will still be available before barcelona
> much content is there now, more over the next 2 days
> will be looking for feedback after today
> responsiveness may be slow until we migrate over to main server
>
> joe screaming in awe
> hard commitment elce
>
> product examples section
>   wrl5
>   mel
>   enea linux
>   bsps
>   products
>   blimp?
>
>   registration process -
>
>   all demos should be yp compatible
>
> AR>jefro:  flag when think good to pound on, finer granularity
>
> _____________________________
> Gumstix - compatible
>   one way is project membership
>   grant logo use? grant membership?
>     steve helping with bsp
>
> _____________________________
> Preparing for Dev Day & ELCE
>   & staffing the booth at ELCE
> te: marketing
>   complimentary booth spot
>   video for center of back wall - workflow walkthrough, no sound
>   announcement on back wall for compliance program, latest release, devday
>   t-shirts for both elce and devday, including women's sizes
>   oversubscribed to fill attrition spots
>   vip list
>   demos in elc: blimp, WR demo, hob demo, bring more
>   idea of who will be at the booth
>     pertinent speaking opportunities
>   devday laid out & ready to go
>   intel systems have reached barcelona, ti systems already shipped
>
>   social events
>
>   joe kidder - will stop by to get a shirt
>
>   tracey can send shirts
>
> AR>jefro: update devday site
>
> _____________________________
> Vote on Sidebranch (YP Participant)
>
> unanimous yes
>
> _____________________________
> Finance update
>
> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Project_Finances
> last year approved 240
> deficit coming in - if went low would cut accordingly
> 217 is expected this year - will be more when 2nd is finalized
> new members coming in provide more funds
> AR> lieu will have budget proposal in barcelona
>
> _____________________________
> Advocacy update
>
> think about demos and other opportunties
> AR>Jefro events
> compatibliity prgoram - need program to get bsps labeled as compatible
>   are all bsps on website considered yp compatible? not yet
>   if not on website, process to make clear what compatible
> AR> work on bsp/layer compatible clarity
>
> _____________________________
> End-of-year planning
>
> teams are preparing for end-of-year planning, especially finance
> full report in Barcelona
>
>
> --
> Jeff Osier-Mixon http://jefro.net/blog
> Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel http://yoctoproject.org


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Jeff Osier-Mixon http://jefro.net/blog
Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel http://yoctoproject.org