[yocto-ab] Minutes: Yocto Project Advisory Board, 09-December-2011
Ta, Lieu
Lieu.Ta at windriver.com
Mon Dec 12 13:59:04 PST 2011
Hello All,
Enclosed is the revised document I presented last Friday.
Regards,
Lieu
From: yocto-ab-bounces at yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-ab-bounces at yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Osier-mixon, Jeffrey
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:20 AM
To: yocto-ab at yoctoproject.org
Subject: Re: [yocto-ab] Minutes: Yocto Project Advisory Board, 09-December-2011
Just a quick addition in case it was not clear in the notes: Gold members will receive invoices for the agreed Gold membership fee ($45k). We will discuss this more in next week's meeting.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Osier-mixon, Jeffrey <jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com<mailto:jeffrey.osier-mixon at intel.com>> wrote:
Minutes: Yocto Project Advisory Board, 09-December-2011
Attendees:
Lieu Ta, Wind River
Paul Anderson, Wind River
Nithya Ruff, Wind River
Sean Hudson, Mentor Graphics
John Cherry, Mentor Graphics
Philip Balister, OpenEmbedded eV
Tracey Erway, Intel
Dave Stewart, Intel
Mark Orvek, MontaVista Software
Bill Mills, Texas Instruments
Richard Purdie, Chief Architect (Linux Foundation)
Steve Sakoman, Sakoman Inc.
Jeff Osier-Mixon, community manager (Intel)
Working Agenda:
- Budget Update 2011
[slides]
==> Jefro can send slides to anyone not present
- Budget Plan 2012
[slides]
LT: want to close on decisions
discussion about sysadmin
SS does own IT, votes heck yeah
PB: OE operates with volunteer sysadmin team,
difficult to get things done
good sysadmin important for successful project
BM: no prob with line item as long as person working fulltime
on yocto only, and capable of handling a lot of misc things
that come up - expectation is position to absorb a lot of
things, not nickel/dime on budget
DS: adamant with LF about not sharing sysadmin's time
can think of a way to perform accountability tracking
BM: don't need to micromanage it
DS: create mechanism for billing back
RP: ensure priorities
JC: consider addressing LF to supply or fund?
JO: LF provides us resources as a "lab", expected to fund our own
resources, including sysadmin
JC: contact mike woster on topic?
==> Jefro to set up meeting next week
==> LIEU to update advocacy table & resend slides
- tiered membership proposal
[slides]
membership fee applicable to new and existing
DS: want to think about lowest rung, maybe waive for very
small organizations like Sakoman, OE
continue the ability to waive at AB discretion
BM: enough to cover budget with existing members?
LT: not yet
JO: 2 new members joining in January, one more at the gate
PA: limit number of people on AB?
granted, AB is just advisory, keep handle on size
PB: wireless innovation forum similar structure, exec committee
(note: PB sent a link to wireless innovation http://www.wirelessinnovation.org/About_the_Forum)
BM: too many levels? in LF, silver members vote among themselves
and appoint one to that one seat on board
SH: some considerations - smaller entities in larger company
for OS contribs still want participation
question: purpose of this board?
technical direction - what we need? (eg shoeleather)
handle business/admin side?
DS: project driven by meritocracy, our role advisory
SH: concern that AB focus seems to be changing
definitely think advisory board there to help influence
general technical direction of project
like to see separation of marketing/business from advisory board
understand problem: need to bring money in
continue to work technical direction & work with architect
e.g., Yocto Project mark for marketing purposes - not AB related
RP: this is discussed occasionally
proposed a discussion to dead response on AB list
needs to be addressed, people want to get involved with YP
BM: way too big a change to vote on today
need budget resolution
proposal: take budget as stands now, divide by # paying members
if get other "gold members" can choose to spend more or decrease
cost of 5 existing members or do both
add silver tier to get more people involved, treat independent
action item for first meeting next year
need more circulation on these proposals
PA: good plan, can amend later
JO: suggest enacting silver now, as there are existing orgs that
can't afford a gold membership and may have to drop otherwise
BM: suggest silver members have seperate structure, only get one vote
JO: also, AB retains ability to waive membership fees
BM: initially 45k, if one drops to 10k need to crunch budget
VOTE: gold 45, silver 10, board discretionary to waive fee
*** PASSED resolution for gold & silver membership levels
with agreement to continue discussion
BM: ok to pay quarterly?
LT: okay with everyone? yes
*** PASSED quarterly payments
JC: hold off on approval of sysadmin until talk to MW
approve sysadmin for q1?
*** PASSED approved sysadmin cost for Q1
with agreement to continue discussion
RP: may need to schedule more rapid succession meetings
still to decide: tiered membership
schedule as needed
==> JEFRO TO SCHED NEXT WEEK 1.5hr
Next meeting: Weds 14-Dec-2011, 2:00pm PST/4:00pm CST
- Advocacy & Conference Schedule 2012
- Yocto Project Summit at ELC
- Shoeleather Status
- Community Status
- cavium update
- Website overhaul
- User Experience survey & UX design
- Advisory Board Status
- New member organizations
- Existing memberships
--
Jeff Osier-Mixon http://jefro.net/blog
Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel http://yoctoproject.org<http://yoctoproject.org/>
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Jeff Osier-Mixon http://jefro.net/blog
Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel http://yoctoproject.org<http://yoctoproject.org/>
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