[yocto] Git tool/command problems with YOCTO Open Source repos

Wed Nov 28 04:53:27 PST 2018

> This is what your opinion is. Which seems to be vastly overestimating its own importance.

I do not think you understood what I am trying to advertise. The
unification. In other words:
If I use kernel.org, I use git tool.
If I use YOCTO Poky, I would like to use git tool.
For all YOCTO repos, I would like to use git tool.

Not repo, kas, or other tools. Not particular tools, assigned to
particular tasks, for particular build systems.

Since I would like to invest time and effort in ONLY one,
comprehensive tool, and discard all other tools which are not up to
the complex challenges I have. So this is why I sent initial email, in
first place,

Thank you,
Zoran
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:25 PM Josef Holzmayr
<holzmayr at rsi-elektrotechnik.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Zoran,
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:00:22PM +0100, Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote:
> > I am (almost) perfectly aligned with kernel.org, and I (personally)
> > decided to use git. Since I start understanding importance of Linus.
> > Linux officers and their Linux philosophy.
>
> You are free to choose your workflow as you please.
>
> > Now... Answers to your email. KAS (Siemens developed tool by Jan
> > Kiszka and his crew) is the supplement for the fast/quick building the
> > YOCTO, to use ONLY rootfs. NOT kernel. NOT aligned with the git tool.
> > Not applicable for purposes as git.
>
> It is a tool that serves one purpose. It does that job well.
>
> > On the other note, repo is GOOGLE tool. Promoted by them. Most of the
> > ARM followers (such as Toradex) use repo tool.
>
> Thats what they choose.
>
> > You say: I talk to the wrong crew. I think opposite. I am giving the
> > generic message via YOCTO email list, to avoid hundreds of particular
> > emails, so we can unify the effort. Which is not minor. Rather
> > opposite: major.
> >
> > Since, I guess, this is of the major importance. For YOCTO survival.
> > The direction is one: git tool. For all YOCTO developers. IMHO.
>
> This is what your opinion is. Which seems to be vastly overestimating
> its own importance.
>
> > Stefano,
> >
> > You, as major official representative of U-Boot philosophy (and
> > Wolfgang's Denk right hand), do not take sides, rather ad-hoc
> > approach. For you, this topic is not important. Appreciated your help.
>
> By now, you are telling other people who have been doing thwir work
> successfully for decades how to do their jobs.
> Actually, telling off one of the core contributors and community members
> with "This is not for you" is plain rude.
>
> > I am asking here for much higher awareness. YOCTO better survival in The Future.
>
> We are doing quite well at the moment, thank you.
>
> So if you have a proposal on how to improve things, feel free to share
> it. Go ahead and lead on how to use that proposal by doing your own
> upstream work, showing how emplying your proposal makes it better and
> more usable.
>
> Just getting onto a mailing list and saying "You're doing it wrong
> because it doesn't suit my workflow", again, is quite rude.
>
> Greetz.
>
> PS: yes, this mail is explicitly meant to support Stefano.
>
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Zoran
> > _______
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:52 AM Stefano Babic <sbabic at denx.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Zoran,
> > >
> > > On 28/11/18 10:17, Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote:
> > > > Hello YOCTO people,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to use standard git tool while using all the Yocto
> > > > layers. NOT only Poky repository (which, I believe, works all the way
> > > > with git tools), but as much as possible with other github proprietary
> > > > repos and layers. Since I am not able to execute git commands using
> > > > some number of proprietary repos over github.
> > > >
> > > > As example, I'll use meta-bbb repository.
> > > > https://github.com/jumpnow/meta-bbb.git, after cloning the following
> > > > happens (chosen, since it has at least dozen of branches):
> > > >
> > > > After cloning, I did not get anything from the following commands,
> > > > being in the root of the meta-bbb repo, namely:
> > > >
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ pwd
> > > > /home/user/projects2/beaglebone-black/yocto-master/meta-bbb
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git describe
> > > > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything.
> > >
> > > I understand, but why is this an issue in Yocto project ? The maintainer
> > > does not use tags and git describe is fast useless.
> > >
> > > You should contact layer's maintainer and ask for that. Anyway, outside
> > > poky, tags are quite unused in layers.
> > >
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git tag
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git checkout thud
> > > > Branch 'thud' set up to track remote branch 'thud' from 'origin'.
> > > > Switched to a new branch 'thud'
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git checkout sumo
> > > > Switched to branch 'sumo'
> > > > Your branch is up to date with 'origin/sumo'.
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git describe
> > > > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything.
> > > > [user at fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$
> > > >
> > > > The rationale behind this request: git is the powerful tool which
> > > > should work and be solely used for YOCTO layers' synchronization. In
> > > > other words, YOCTO should give some tools' (namely git) unification
> > > > guidelines in some way. :-)
> > >
> > > It is clear that a tool to maintain the layers in sync is required, but
> > > it is quite independent how the layers (and many are proprietary layers)
> > > are built. So you can use "repo" or "kas" (my preferred one) for that.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Stefano Babic
> > >
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