[yocto] The term Package as used in the YP docs

Rudolf Streif rudolf.streif at linux.com
Fri Sep 28 11:44:31 PDT 2012


I am not advocating changing the variable names. I know that this is a huge
undertaking and prone to many problems. This probably one of the many
legacy things people will have to live with and understand. In most cases
recipe name and version exactly reflect the name and version of the package
it is intended to build which to some extend mitigates the issue.

As far as the Terms section in the manuals is concerned, I see that you
already changed the describing text for the variables. That's sufficient, I
think.

:rjs

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Rifenbark, Scott M <
scott.m.rifenbark at intel.com> wrote:

> I have tried to weed out the ambiguous use of "package" for this upcoming
> version of the manual set.  I don't think I would want to suggest changing
> any of the "P*" type variable names in the code.  I agree with Paul here
> that the potential for really messing things up out-weighs any other
> benefit.  This is why I was trying to worm in a bit of history behind those
> names for the people that might struggle like me.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yocto-bounces at yoctoproject.org [mailto:
> yocto-bounces at yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Paul Eggleton
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: Rudolf Streif
> Cc: yocto at yoctoproject.org
> Subject: Re: [yocto] The term Package as used in the YP docs
>
> On Friday 28 September 2012 11:27:37 Rudolf Streif wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I agree with Scott's definition. In the general Linux context a Package
> is
> > a compilation of binaries, documentation, development files, etc. wrapped
> > up in a format that can be used by a package management system to install
> > it on a target system.
>
> No dispute there.
>
> > It is somewhat confusing that YP and OE use the term 'package'
> synonymously
> > with 'recipe'. In most cases a package is the output of a recipe.
>
> The thing is, we no longer do that - we've fixed a number of references in
> the
> documentation, help text and error messages for this release so that
> "recipe"
> is used when that's what we mean. If we've left any references that should
> be
> considered a bug.
>
> > Unfortunately, changing variables like P, PN, PV, PR etc.
> > may cause some pain. If a transition is what the broader community would
> > like to achieve then a period where old and new variables can be used
> > interchangeably (if possible) would be the way to go.
>
> I'm not sure there's a huge amount to be gained by doing this when weighed
> against the cost - it would certainly cause a massive amount of churn, with
> the potential for problems with layer interaction where one layer has done
> the
> big rename and another that bbappends recipes in the first hasn't.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
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>
> Paul Eggleton
> Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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