Tuesday, 2013-06-04

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ftonellowhat to do to ignore Yocto_Build_Appliance.vmx warning?01:39
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gotani have a quick question about excluding packages from an image. It must be possible, but  cannot find any documentation on it other than BBMASK.07:36
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bluelightningmorning all08:07
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zenlinuxmorning bluelightning08:09
* zenlinux waves from Tokyo08:09
bluelightningzenlinux: hey... I was thinking it was late for you :)08:09
bluelightningzenlinux: good job on the minnowboard.org intro video btw, just watched it yesterday08:10
zenlinuxheh, I have another video to post once I get back08:10
zenlinuxin that one I smile a few times and don't act quite so serious :)08:10
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zenlinuxheaded to the Tokyo Hackerspace for a meeting tonight where I'll tell them about Minnow (and a quick Yocto introduction, too)08:11
bluelightningzenlinux: this whole hackerspace thing is still a bit new to me... I've been to one and it was in portland, I think maybe you took us there :)08:12
zenlinuxdid I? Or was it maybe Beth?08:12
bluelightningcan't recall, it was a couple of trips ago08:12
zenlinuxwas it brainsilo - which is in a converted warehouse space in an industrial district08:12
bluelightningnah it was something in town... they had bits of PC hanging on the walls :)08:13
bluelightninghope you enjoy your time in Japan anyway, I'd love to go there someday08:14
zenlinuxthis is the best trip ever for me. I can't wait to come back08:15
c00kiemon5ter"best trip ever" "can't wait to come back" don't go together!08:17
zenlinuxcan't wait to come back to Tokyo, not home :)08:18
c00kiemon5terah :)08:18
Net147hi bluelightning08:19
bluelightninghi Net14708:19
Net147bluelightning: I got mesa llvmpipe to run properly. for some reason it's really slow unless I compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer. it's now around 160 fps instead of like 2 fps.08:20
bluelightninghmm, some kind of weird interaction I guess...08:21
Net147bluelightning: I isolated it to swrast_dri.so. if I swap it out with one from Arch Linux system it works fine. I don't think they compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer. strange.08:22
Net147bluelightning: so something in the compiler, some strangeness in Mesa driver or some strange interaction with LLVM library08:22
Net147bluelightning: I may do some profiling later to try to isolate the cause08:23
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mckoangood morning08:35
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silviofmorning all08:51
silviofsome imx6-freescale user here? I have the same issue like this: http://www.mail-archive.com/meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org/msg00033.html   Give it a solution for it?08:52
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RagBalIs it possible to use a generated toolchain in Eclipse by setting it up manually instead of ADT? I have no understanding of the automake tools it is using and want it to be clean and simple09:11
mckoansilviof: only imx5 here ;-) but Otavio will wake up later09:13
mckoanRagBal: yes it is possible09:14
silviofmckoan: thx - than i will wait :-)09:14
RagBalIs there any guide for that? Because I can't seem to get it functional09:14
mckoanRagBal: no clue, have you tried with google?09:15
RagBalOfc, but I now have found a guide for NetBeans, trying that out09:16
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Net147khem: ping11:23
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gonzzorWhat is the difference between include and require in build/conf/local.conf?11:27
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Net147rburton: how's the Mesa 9.1.3 update going?11:38
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Net147JaMa: I got Mesa 9.1.3 llvmpipe working. had to add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to compile flags though otherwise slow performance.11:42
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JaMaNet147: good work, thanks!11:48
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Net147JaMa: all the work is in a .bbappend in my private layer at the moment11:48
JaMaI'm building updated mesa+wayland atm11:48
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Net147JaMa: do the LLVM patches look ok?11:49
JaMadid you had to specify which llvm-config should be used? because here it was missing 2.9 suffix to include dir when llvm-config --cflags were used (llvm-config2.9 works fine)11:50
JaMaNet147: yes, I've only squashed 2 of them (you can see it in contrib/jansa/in-test)11:50
JaMaNet147: I plan to merge them after next jenkins builds11:50
Net147JaMa: I just add export WANT_LLVM_RELEASE = "3.2"11:51
Net147JaMa: I am testing with LLVM 3.211:52
Net147JaMa: I had problems with LLVM 2.9 due to missing symbol. I think may have to do with LLVM 2.9 being built with cmake.11:53
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Net147JaMa: I observed building with autotools creates an all in one libLLVM-*.so with static .a for each component. building with cmake creates *.so for each component but doesn't create an all in one libLLVM-*.so11:55
Net147JaMa: it has been recommended to link LLVM was shared library for Mesa due to various bugs using static LLVM11:55
Net147JaMa: my .bbappend so far - http://pastebin.com/3YwJZ8m111:56
JaMathanks I'll convert them to PACKAGECONFIG options for mesa in master12:00
JaMaso that we can enable galium and llvmpipe with much smaller bbappends later12:00
Net147JaMa: I will submit the LLVM shared library cross compile fix for Mesa upstream12:01
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Net147JaMa: note that some configure options are not recognized anymore in Mesa: --disable-glu, --disable-glw, --disable-glut. build will still continue but it will just show warning.13:05
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bluelightninggonzzor: "include" will include the file if it exists and not error if it doesn't; require will include the file and error if it doesn't exist13:27
bluelightninggonzzor: so we tend to use require unless we expect the build to continue if the file isn't there13:28
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honschuHi, how to "fill" one file into a static ubi-volume?13:42
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JaMarburton, Net147: please check last 9 commits http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=jansa/mesa it's based on our and Net147's .bbappends, still WIP13:44
darknighteCrofton: Crofton|work13:44
Croftongnuradio hackfest this weel13:45
JaMaNet147: can I merge your llvm-cross.patch to it? I would wait for you to submit it upstream, so that we can have correct Upstream-Status13:45
darknighteCrofton: cool13:45
CroftonJaMa, we see the source of the gnuradio issue you reported13:45
JaMaCrofton: great13:46
Net147JaMa: it's submitted upstream. check on mesa-dev mailing list13:49
Net147JaMa: albeit, I added a bit more to it13:50
JaMaok, thanks13:51
Net147JaMa: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-June/040167.html and http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-June/040168.html13:51
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Net147JaMa: rburton added the first one to his 9.1.3 update13:51
JaMayup my branch is based on his mesa/wayland/gtk upgrade13:52
Net147JaMa: there are more gallium drivers than swrast. r300,r600,radeonsi,nouveau,svga,swrast for example. r600 needs LLVM 3.313:54
Net147JaMa: LLVM 3.3 needs valgrind-native recipe I think which doesn't exist yet13:54
Net147JaMa: LLVM 3.3 work in progress based on RC2 - http://pastebin.com/Y48B3YAC13:56
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JaMaNet147: people can extend GALLIUMDRIVERS list in .bbappend like we do for DRIDRIVERS14:00
Net147JaMa: I see14:01
Net147JaMa: good work14:01
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Net147JaMa: I don't see -fno-omit-frame-pointer flag in your changes14:03
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honschuWhen I create a ubi-static-volume with "ubimkvol", how to write a kernel-image into that new static-ubi-volume?14:06
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JaMaNet147: it's there now, but I'm still waiting for test build to finish14:21
JaMaso consider this only as WIP to see what I plan to do14:22
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jstashlukis there a way to trace the files that set and modiry DISTRO_FEATURES?14:25
Net147JaMa: I wonder if we should only apply the flag if using llvmpipe14:25
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JaMaNet147: it would be nice to understand why this flag slows whole thing down, then we could decide if it's good or bad to enable it for all or only llvmpipe builds14:27
Net147JaMa: yes. I wonder if it's related to the GCC compiler version used.14:27
Net147JaMa: since other distributions compile it without the flag and work fine14:28
Net147JaMa: more specifically, it is something inside swrast_dri.so14:29
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Net147JaMa: omitting frame pointer is a compiler optimisation that is supposed to speed things up14:30
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Net147JaMa: --disable-glu --disable-glw --disable-glut are not recognized anymore in Mesa 9.1.3 so I wonder if we should drop those flags in mesa.inc14:32
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JaMayes we should, I'll drop them in next patch14:35
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gonzzorbluelightning: Thanks14:39
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sgw1YPTM: Saul here15:00
frayYPTM: Mark is here15:00
jzhang-laptopYPTM: jzhang on the call15:00
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Song_LiuYPTM: welcome to the meeting, please let me know who's on the bridge. Thanks!15:00
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tomz1YPTM: Tom Z here15:00
pidgeYPTM: Beth just joined15:00
bluelightningYPTM: Paul Eggleton is on the call15:00
RPSong_Liu: Richard is on the call15:00
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strassekYPTM: Kevin Strasser is dialing in15:00
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denixYPTM: Denys is here15:01
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belen1YPTM: belen is on the call15:03
Song_LiuYPTM: Any opens?15:04
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nitinkYPTM: nitin is on the call15:05
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Zagorisn't gcc flagging a bit short-sighted?15:18
Zagoryeah it hurts to rebuild everything, but you *did* replace the compiler after all15:19
Zagorwe have e500 builds, but haven't started testing 4.8 yet15:20
RPZagor: its a question you can't win on15:20
RPits also configurable15:20
frayya..  versioning gcc 4.8.1 vs 4.8.0 is likely a loss.. but 4.7 to 4.8 is likely a win..15:21
fraythat was why my suggestion on using GCCVERSION = ...15:21
frayit covers only the main version string15:21
frayit's the e500 and e500v2 tune BTW15:21
frayand I've had about 10 people tell me that gcc 4.8.1 is now out.. :P  (I think they're hoping that will fix the ICE...)  but I havn't even looked at that, I usually defer to Khem15:24
Song_LiuYPTM: thank you all for joining the meeting. You all have a nice day/evening15:32
RPthanks Song_Liu15:32
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Zagorsgw1: did you have something more you wanted to talk about, or can I go make dinner? :)15:45
sgw1Zagor: I think we are good, if you can just send a list of packages you have pending that would be great.15:45
Zagoryep, I'll do that15:45
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mranostaymorn' Jefro15:58
Jefromranostay good morning - is it grey up there? thick fog down here (coastal northern CA)15:59
mranostayoh i  keep forgeting you are in SC not JF16:01
mranostayblue skies today16:01
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mranostaysuppose to be good weather for the whole weeke16:02
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Ramana_Darren: I like to know if you have decided on any format of configuring disk images16:09
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dvhartRamana_, do you mean partitioning or some other aspect?16:10
Ramana_yes partitioning16:10
dvhartRamana_, tomz1 is looking into that via https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384716:11
yoctiBug 3847: enhancement, Medium, 1.5 M2, tom.zanussi, IN PROGRESS DESIGN , New partitioning description and tooling16:11
Ramana_as part of bug 384716:11
yoctiBug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3847 enhancement, Medium, 1.5 M2, tom.zanussi, IN PROGRESS DESIGN , New partitioning description and tooling16:11
dvhartright :-)16:11
dvhartRamana_, we haven't made a lot of progress on that yet16:11
dvhartRamana_, tomz1 will be picking that up in the next few weeks I believe16:11
Ramana_Darren, ok, I am also working on making a common configuration file format.16:12
dvhartRamana_, please collaborate with tomz1 on that bug16:12
Ramana_Darren, I have come up with a format and a parser, so wanted to check with you16:12
Ramana_Darren, OK16:13
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Ramana_Darren, thanks I will check with tomz1, what is full name of tomz1?16:14
dvhartRamana_, see the bug owner16:14
Ramana_Darren, got it thanks16:15
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dvhartRamana_, thanks for letting us know, great to work together and not duplicate effort16:16
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Ramana_tomz1, Hi ru there?16:18
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otaviodaiane_: :) welcome!17:51
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daiane_otavio: hi there17:58
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jstashlukotavio: Eric has done the 4.0.0 release Nitrogen6X18:13
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jstashlukotavio: it seems to work.18:14
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mranostaywmat: hey canadian18:20
wmatmranostay: hey portlandian18:20
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mranostay_darknighte_: welcome to the jungle19:04
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_darknighte_mranostay: what's up?19:05
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_darknighte_my znc bouncer just freaked out a bit there...19:05
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mranostaydarknighte_znc: make up your mind! :P19:08
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kergothI look forward to bitbake requiring python 2.722:31
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kergothRP: we should think about adding a new event for operation against a finalized config datastore, which bitbake then uses for config, so we can avoid manual finalizing in ConfigParsed handlers for particular cases22:45
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kergothRP: though, the event would have to carry both finalized and non-finalized datastores with it, since only non-finalized would affect recipes22:45
* kergoth ponders22:46
RPkergoth: that is the dilemma. The finalised store isn't useful to bitbake and could end up confusing users even more since writes to it won't have any affect :/22:48
RPkergoth: I wish we could move to 2.7 too...22:50
kergoththe finalized store is extremely useful to bitbake. without it, we can't combine overrides with PREFERRED_PROVIDER & the like22:56
kergothbut yeah, confusion is a definite concern22:56
* kergoth shrugs22:56
mranostayhi kergoth23:07
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